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Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:52 am
by n2rga
Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card.
I had a problem with the Firewire card with a via chipset card and it worked fine until a month ago.
I reinstalled Windows 11 Home by wiping the old install.
I reinstalled PowerSDR as recommended before by Darrin
" Downloaded the Full and Incremental installers from my website.
Set "Compatibility" of the Full installer to "Window 7"

Installed Full Installer (which also installs the FireWire drivers for PowerSDR). Reboot.
Installed Incremental install.

Set the Compatibility of the PowerSDR (Desktop icon) to "Windows 7" and "run as Admin" (so I can use it to sync the PC clock)

Ran in DEMO mode first (so FireWire is ignored) just to make sure everything was OK
Then powered up The Flex-5000 and launched PowerSDR.

Made a bunch of adjustments to the settings.
Set the Primary Sample Rate to 192khz (because the default is 96khz because some FireWire cards have trouble with 192khz)"

I also followed the how-to https://ke9ns.com/flexpage.html#firewire I did everything
I purchased another card and it did the same, but I didn't realize it was the same chipset. so it BSOD also only with the power off button.
Went back to Amazon yesterday and bought a Syba SY-PEX30016 3 Port IEEE 1394 Firewire with a TI XIO2213B Chipset and installed the legacy Driver.

I hit Aply or ok in Device Manager BSOD. Hit off BSOD. Hit Save Profile BSOD. Try to increase PFN Crash Dely and try to save BSOD.
Running 308 of PowerSDR.
Anyone Have this card and have it running ok?
How did you fix your BSOD?

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:34 pm
by n2rga
I did a latencyMon test and got this:
Conclusion: Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. Also one or more ISR routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:39 am
by n2rga
anyone?
Not sure how to fix latency findings

Downloaded the Legacey Firewire Driver from Darrin's website and Same happened

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:49 am
by py5vb
Some radio amateurs are giving up on their FLEX3000/FLEX5000 because they are unable to use it stably on new PCs with Windows 10/11.
I don't know how Darrin manages to use PowerSDR 24/7 without experiencing BSOD with Windows 11. I and many others have not had success, with the most diverse hardware configurations on the desktop, the BSOD appears quite frequently. We used all the tips available on Darrin's website.
If you use Windows 10 in MBR format of SSD/HD partition, it is quite stable regarding BSOD, but sometimes the PowerSDR screen closes abruptly when changing bands or quickly changing the QRG, this rarely happens.
Now, if you want to use PowerSDR with 100% reliability without experiencing absolutely any setbacks, use Windows 7 Ultimate. It's old and some current PCs don't allow you to install Windows 7. I dedicated a 3rd generation Intel i7 PC with 4G of RAM and 128G SSD exclusively for PowerSDR and I'm extremely satisfied and using my FLEX5000A/PowerSDR 2.8.309 all the time.
73, Villas - PY5VB

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:26 am
by n2rga
py5vb wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:49 am
Some radio amateurs are giving up on their FLEX3000/FLEX5000 because they are unable to use it stably on new PCs with Windows 10/11.
I don't know how Darrin manages to use PowerSDR 24/7 without experiencing BSOD with Windows 11. I and many others have not had success, with the most diverse hardware configurations on the desktop, the BSOD appears quite frequently. We used all the tips available on Darrin's website.
If you use Windows 10 in MBR format of SSD/HD partition, it is quite stable regarding BSOD, but sometimes the PowerSDR screen closes abruptly when changing bands or quickly changing the QRG, this rarely happens.
Now, if you want to use PowerSDR with 100% reliability without experiencing absolutely any setbacks, use Windows 7 Ultimate. It's old and some current PCs don't allow you to install Windows 7. I dedicated a 3rd generation Intel i7 PC with 4G of RAM and 128G SSD exclusively for PowerSDR and I'm extremely satisfied and using my FLEX5000A/PowerSDR 2.8.309 all the time.
73, Villas - PY5VB
Installing win 7 on this PC is not posable.
I had it running for a long time then all of a sudden BOOM no good. Dam windows updates

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:59 pm
by ke9ns
You can try upping the PFN delay value and see if that helps?


Darrin

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:40 am
by n2rga
ke9ns wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:59 pm
You can try upping the PFN delay value and see if that helps?


Darrin
I put up to 1500 saved to my profile. hit ok and crashed

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:44 am
by n2rga
ke9ns wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:59 pm
You can try upping the PFN delay value and see if that helps?


Darrin
I tried it again and it took this time and didn't crash. going to test through out the day.
What is the highest setting I can go to?
thanks

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:46 am
by n2rga
ke9ns wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:59 pm
You can try upping the PFN delay value and see if that helps?


Darrin
@Darrin
Didn't work keeps crashing. I have PRN Delay at Max 1500.

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:45 am
by ke9ns
One thing to try would be to disable the Win11 defender real-time protection. See if PowerSDR will run with defender real-time turned off?
And make sure Windows core isolation->memory integrity is OFF.
(Just remember that the real-time defender will turn back on every time you turn your PC OFF/ON)
Otherwise you can try a firewire card with a VIA chip instead of a TI
I have had people swap cards to find one chip works much better than another.
In my past, I have found some motherboards worked only with VIA FireWire chips, and others only with TI chips.

Running PowerSDR on my Lenovo Ryzen laptop, i tried a few different PCIe cards (see image below)
I found 1 card that was causing PFN crashes, and 1 that has no issues.
Under win11 you can no longer use the legacy FireWire drivers because Win11 requires a signed driver (which the version i was able to find is not signed).
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Darrin

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:54 pm
by n2rga
ke9ns wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:45 am
One thing to try would be to disable the Win11 defender real-time protection. See if PowerSDR will run with defender real-time turned off?
And make sure Windows core isolation->memory integrity is OFF.
(Just remember that the real-time defender will turn back on every time you turn your PC OFF/ON)
Otherwise you can try a firewire card with a VIA chip instead of a TI
I have had people swap cards to find one chip works much better than another.
In my past, I have found some motherboards worked only with VIA FireWire chips, and others only with TI chips.

Running PowerSDR on my Lenovo Ryzen laptop, i tried a few different PCIe cards (see image below)
I found 1 card that was causing PFN crashes, and 1 that has no issues.
Under win11 you can no longer use the legacy FireWire drivers because Win11 requires a signed driver (which the version i was able to find is not signed).
IMG_9786.JPG
Darrin
Nice Yes I have both Card Via and TI both are doing the same. The Via worked fine for months and about 2 months ago after a windows update BAM BSOD every time I shut down.
I re-installed and still no good.
I have the Legacy Driver on it.
And yes Defender is shut down

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:59 am
by n2rga
@Darrin
I re-read your reply above and thought I had Windows core isolation->memory integrity is OFF

It's off now and BAM! I will spit up into the air and say it's fixed. I will test it later today and verify it. I turned it off about 4 times and wrote AM and SSB settings to DB 4 times and pressed ok went off then on - no BSOD Yaaaaa!

Thank You

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:00 am
by ke9ns
Cross your fingers. If it does happen again, try turning off the real-time defender to see that helps or not?

Darrin

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:46 pm
by n2rga
I turned it all off in Defender and It did happen again.

Re: Dell XPS Crashing Again Texas Instruments Firewire Card

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:54 pm
by ke9ns
The only thing I can think of is If your using a TI chip FireWire, try using a VIA chip FireWire its claims to be Win10 or 11 compatible?